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Residents Divided Over Roxbury Park Master Plan

The proposal for the new community center at Roxbury Park would include a gymnasium, as well as space for teens and seniors.

A presentation of Phase One of the proposed Roxbury Park Master Plan turned into a heated discussion Wednesday with the 100 residents in attendance split as to whether they are for or against the project.

Phase One would include a new community center with features like a gymnasium, expanded library space, improved meeting rooms, a study room and game room for teens, a senior room with a patio, a café with vending machines and additional parking. The cost of the project is estimated at more than $14.5 million.

Director of Community Services Steve Zoet welcomed residents to the meeting, which was held in the park’s current facility. He introduced landscape architect Patrick Hirsch of Hirsch & Associates, Inc. and building architect Steve Albert of The Albert Group. Hirsch and Albert presented a slide show of drawings depicting the proposed community center and other amenities.

A walkway would extend from the entrance to the park, through the community center and then out into the park itself, Albert said.

“We have the big areas like the gymnasium on the left side of the walkway and the smaller areas like the library, fitness area, meeting rooms and senior area on the right,” Albert said. “Administrative offices will be on the second floor so that staff can have a view of the park.”

The study room and the game room for teens would also be upstairs, he said.

Beverly Hills resident Ken Goldman wanted assurance from the city that the new facility would not be used for weddings, bar/bat mitzvahs or conferences that would inundate the area with people.

“We need some assurance that we’re not going to have gatherings of 500 people or more here every weekend,” Goldman said.

Zoet said using the facility for events like that is not even on the city’s radar right now.

“I don’t see this as anything but a community recreation center,” Zoet said. “It is not designed for weddings or that type of event.”

Harvey Jason, who represents a group that meets at the park three times a week thinks the new community center is a great idea.

“Thank you for the terrific presentation,” Jason said. “I would like to give you an endorsement from our group because everything sounds wonderful.”

Marilyn Gallup wanted to know why a survey sent out to 18,000 residents in November 2006 only asked which features people wanted for the new facility, not whether they wanted the new facility in the first place. Of the 1,707 people who responded, 345 said they wanted a gymnasium and 182 said they wanted a rock wall, Gallup said.

“It was very clear by this survey that the residents don’t want these features, yet here they are in your drawings,” Gallup said.

Hirsch said that, in addition to the surveys, countless public meetings have been held over the past five years in an effort to assess what members of the community want.

Rose Norton said she wanted more green space in the community.

“This is not a community center,” she said. “It’s a sports complex and we don’t need it.”

Zoet noted that the new facility will actually allow more green space at the park because it has two stories and therefore a smaller footprint.

Beverly Vista eighth grader Kylie Haywood, 13, spoke up at the meeting because she felt that her age group was not being adequately represented.

“Speaking for teens, we love this idea,” Haywood said. “Kids will have the opportunity to come someplace safe and do the activities they love to do.”

Vivien Benjamin wanted to know why the current facility could not just be remodeled.

“Why don’t you just do a facelift,” she said. “It’s a memorial park and we like it this way.”

Hirsch said that because of today’s building codes, the current facility, built in 1958, would cost an estimated $13 million to remodel and bring up to code, nearly the same price as building anew.

Phase One of the proposed Roxbury Park Master Plan must still go back to the City Council for final approval.

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Sheila Kaufman May 20, 2011 at 01:55 pm
I've lived in Beverly Hills for many years. Years ago we had a swimming pool at La Cienega Park and it was wonderful for me and my family. In the hot summer months my children and I could enjoy an outdoor swimming facility near our home. Then it was taken away for reasons I could never understand. Now, you're talking about redoing Roxbury Park. Not everyone in Beverly Hills has a swimming pool in the backyard and many people live in apartments. I think an outdoor swimming pool would be a vital asset to Roxbuty Park. You could even charge a nominal fee for its use. I have visited many cities in the U.S. and wonder why so many other communities (many with limited resources) are able to provide their people with a place to escape the heat and have a healthy place to go to in the summer months and Beverly Hills cannot. WHY? Think about it - and no lame answers.
Sheila Kaufman
Laurie Slater May 20, 2011 at 05:50 pm
I was a lifeguard at the historic pool which was used as the practice pool for the 1932 Olympics. What a shame that the Spanish Colonial entrance to the pool and the pool were demolished. The current proposal for the Roxbury Park Recreation Center is a long-needed facility. A pool should be added to the facility. How can the City of Beverly Hills not have a public pool? I think I know the reason, and it's not a socially responsible answer. The facilities provided by the proposed recreation center should be applauded by young and old, and one and all!
Laurie Slater
red patchd May 20, 2011 at 09:27 pm
Folks
I did not know about the meeting or would have attended as I reside in a single family home in Beverly Hills near Roxbury Park. Yes, swimming pools and gymnasiums and libraries are great quality of life ammenities. No quesiton about it. But...does anyone out there get that this country is broke, bankrupt, Chapter 7, on the verge of financial castrophe, and that the country quite literally is printing money and borrowing from China just to pay it's current bills? That there is a real chance the government T-Bills will default? If the City of Beverly Hills builds this project at this time, is that not saying to the general public "Let them eat cake"? Regarding the pool, there is a great public pool on Sepulveda in Culver City. Prior to building the Beverly Hills pool, has anyone surveyed management of the Culver City pool to determine the actual cost of maintenance? I have a small pool which costs $100 a month to clean, plus today I wrote a check for $750.00 for repairs, and a couple of months ago the motor went out and $ were paid for that. Pools also need personnel to maintain them, like lifeguards, and they require liability insurance. Furthermore, the public, not just from Beverly Hills will use it, but also from surrounding areas which means we will be paying not only for our own use but for other communities to use it. Red
Kelly Oneil May 21, 2011 at 08:31 pm
Create a safe way for families to cycle to the family friendly recreation center. This way, obviously, it would cut down on the number of cars potentially disturbing residents.
Sounds great Kelly Oneil - Physical Therapist concerned with the epidemic of adult diseases in children due to obeisity.
PlebisPower May 22, 2011 at 07:23 pm
Parks are like stars in our constellation of public institutions here in Beverly Hills. From active recreation (like Roxbury) to so-called 'pocket parks' like those on Reeves and Canon, from historic spaces like Will Rogers on Sunset to the linear promenade on Santa Monica, our park network distinguishes our city from many in the region. I I agree with Kelly: what's often overlooked is how we connect with these spaces. Successful park design should not stop at the curb.
At Better Bike Beverly Hills we're proposing a network of bike-friendly streets that anchors parks, schools, and cultural institutions precisely so we can choose NOT to drive. Every park should relate to surrounding pedestrian- and bicycle-friendly streets complete with signage and safer crossings and other passive inducements to undertake 'active transportation' just as we encourage for our community active recreation. After all, healthy heart use of the outdoors doesn't end at the park. Likewise, the design process needs to look outward to see how Roxbury, for example, integrates into the community rather than merely complement it as an amenity.
Marc May 24, 2011 at 12:14 am
I find it sad that when the City proposes a project that would benefit the community there are so many negative people against it. Maybe some education on the funding source of the renovations would be good. From my understanding, this would be funded it the Council should choose to continue with the project (and hopefully they will) from capital improvement project accounts that can only be used for certain types of projects, including infrastructure renovation (much like Measure E funds can only be used for BHUSD building improvements). Roxbury park has such a poor facility that I could not believe it was in Beverly Hills. I grew up here, and now I'm raising my family here and we all have been waiting over 10 years for this renovation to happen. I'm sad that a handful of people looking out for their individual needs may stop a project that is so badly need by those who cannot vote yet, our children. I encourage our community to learn about this project and really think about our community as a whole and who would benefit from it. Honestly, when people bought property or chose to live an area adjacent to the park they knew there would be noise so, the fact that they are concerned about noise should have been a consideration before they chose to live there. I found so wrong that people at that meeting didn't want more people coming to the park. I'm sorry, but isn't that what parks are for, for people to come and get together with their families.
Sharon Cotal May 24, 2011 at 02:49 am
To answer your question regarding funding, here is the breakdown:
$6,650,000 will come from the Recreation and Park Facilities Fund $1,500,000 will come from the Infrastructure Fund $6,500,000 will come from the Capital Assets Fund for a total of $14,650,000 for Phase One
Marie Cunningham (Editor) May 24, 2011 at 03:03 am
Thanks for the breakdown Sharon!
gina mandel May 25, 2011 at 02:01 am
IF YOU BUILD IT THEY WILL COME. A pool would offer so many benefits. Yes, there should be an entrance or monthly membership fee. Maybe all the BH residents who give their money to the Beverly Hills Country Club (which is not in Beverly Hills) could better spend their money right here. I believe the costs and service would be recouped. Why doesn't Beverly Hills have some type of community club for families to do everything from swim to BBQ. I know for a fact that there are many locals who go to BHHS to use the pool. I'd rather they not and be required to go to a more controlled accountable environment to swim their laps, not wandering through our HS while there are students on campus.
LADI May 31, 2011 at 04:52 am
You are absolutely right. I live across the street from Roxbury Park in an apartment with no A/C and a pool would be a life saver.
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